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Troll feeding, part 2

May 9, 2018

By Stephen Korsman

Adventists are strange things indeed. Experts in deceit. Experts at trolling. Experts at saying the same misconceptions over and over without listening to explanations as to why they are wrong. E.g. why we should all go and commit adultery and murder if we consider the sabbath obsolete. As if repeating the same silly argument will make people change their minds. Intelligent discussion with them is rare, and mostly impossible. I've never, never come across a religion with so much dishonesty in it, and with so…

Anatomy of an Adventist troll, or troll feeding

May 8, 2018

By Stephen Korsman

Troll, via Uncyclopedia

Out there on the interweb, there are trolls. Many of them. Occasionally I like to feed them. I'd feed them pork, but they're Adventist, so one of the few rules they have is to not eat pork. (They only have 10 rules, which are to keep the sabbath on Saturday and to not eat pork. Abortion and dishonesty are permitted)

Twitter discussion – an Easter Egg

March 30, 2018

By Stephen Korsman

It's a common belief that Easter is pagan. One claim is that the name is derived from Ostare or Eostre, a pagan goddess. I tweeted in response to various tweets claiming such nonsense. I had an interesting discussion with a very opinionated lady. I want to post a few notes here on how seemingly educated people are drawn into this nonsense, and how bizarre their arguments can be.

Thus saith Ellen, part 2 – Call no man Father?

February 9, 2018

By Stephen Korsman

The interesting thing is that Ellen White referred to William Miller, the founder of the Millerite movement that started Adventism, as "Father Miller", and gives one of the Catholic reasons for doing so (cf 1 Cor 4:15).

The Prophecies of Daniel – Introduction

December 2, 2017

By Stephen Korsman

Daniel's Answer to the King

I've decided to write up an interpretation of the prophecies of Daniel, which I've read up on recently. Previously, I debunked the common Adventist claim about the little horn being the papacy, which supposedly uprooted the Vandals, Ostrogoths, and Heruli by 538 AD.

Call no man Father? Tell Ellen White!

November 14, 2015

By Stephen Korsman

Adventists and others accuse Catholics of disobeying Jesus by calling our priests "Father". But the interesting thing is that Ellen White referred to William Miller, the founder of the Millerite movement that started Adventism, as "Father Miller".

Pope Francis – Jesus’ failure on the cross?

September 28, 2015

By Stephen Korsman

The wolves (or donkeys, depicted on the right) cannot read, or don't want to read. They see the words "failure of the cross" and abandon context and honesty in order to promote their nasty agenda. I don't see how any honest person can read the entire paragraph, notice the words "humanly speaking", and misunderstand. The wolves bear false witness. It's what they do.

Ellen White centenary prayers (novena) – Conclusion

July 16, 2015

By Stephen Korsman

Novena ConclusionToday, 16 July 2015, is the centenary of the death of Ellen White, Adventist prophetess. This Novena has asked her and all the angels and saints to pray with us for the return of the Adventist faith to the original teachings of Christianity.

Ellen White centenary prayers (novena) – Day 1

July 8, 2015

By Stephen Korsman

Today, leading up to the centenary of Ellen White's death, we pray for Adventism, that it might see the light and truth it rejects in the Catholic faith it despises. Many within their fold fear the Catholic faith, despise it, and speak against it, not fully comprehending its beauty and faithfulness to the truth contained in the Bible. May God soften their hearts so that they may see the love we share, and the glory we give God in our lives and in our worship.

Ellen White centenary prayers (novena) – Introduction

July 8, 2015

By Stephen Korsman

Novena - Introduction

In the Nine Days leading up to the 100th anniversary of the death of Adventist prophetess Ellen White (16 July 2015), we will say a novena - a prayer continued for nine days - for those who follow her teachings today.

Shame on you – Adventists, dishonesty, and the Catholic Church

August 30, 2014

By Stephen Korsman

Jesus doesn't like lies being told about Christians.

Adventists have a reputation for their dishonesty, and not just among Catholics. Out there in real life and on the internet there is a huge collection of anti-Catholic propaganda waiting for gullible Catholics, and others, to ensnare them. When a Catholic meets a certain type of Adventist, this sort of propaganda abounds.

Dishonest Adventists

August 30, 2014

By Stephen Korsman

Jesus doesn't like lies being told about Christians.

Here are some examples from recent Facebook conversations. Discussions are trimmed to include the relevant bits. Disgusting to read, and disgusting to have to deal with regularly. Not all the "Catholic" discussion is mine; where more than one person was involved in the discussion, they are numbered 1 and 2.

Pope Francis and the microchip

May 21, 2014

By Stephen Korsman

RFID chip compared to a grain of rice

No, Pope Francis is not making people get microchipped. I've seen this nonsense in two places now.

Did Constantine found the Catholic Church?

February 1, 2014

By Stephen Korsman

Constantine the Great

The short answer, no, but that won't satisfy Adventists and other anti-Catholics. Over at Almost Not Catholic, Brent has a good article debunking Adventist claims - Myth Buster: Constantine Founded the Catholic Church.

Christian Halloween

October 31, 2013

By Stephen Korsman

Jack o' Lantern

No, Halloween is NOT a pagan holiday adopted by Catholics and passed on to Protestants. That's a myth perpetuated by anti-Catholics and those who, contrary to the Bible, fear what has been offered to pagan gods. So, in reality, Halloween is a safe and fun secular practice with Christian origins. If you don't believe that, or dislike the type of Christian faith it originated in, follow Paul's advice. If you don't feel you can go that far yet, don't complain about those who have a…

The Catholic Apologist – Young Evangelists

September 8, 2013

By Stephen Korsman

Crucifixion from Santa Maria Antiqua

Continuing my posts on young Catholic apologists/evangelists, this is part 2 of 3. A young guy called Joseph has a YouTube channel with (currently) 38 videos defending various Catholic teachings. "To all Catholics in good standing with the Church, I hope that you learn something from these videos that will help you in your life later on. To all non-Catholics and cafeteria Catholics, please be opened to the truth and let God show you the correct path."

What Catholics Believe – Introduction

August 9, 2013

By Stephen Korsman

The Synaxis of the holy and the most praiseworthy Twelve Apostles

I have been planning to write a series of posts over the next year or so that will cover some of the major points on which Catholics get hassled by non-Catholics, and in particular by Adventists and other Sabbath-keeping groups. Finally I have managed to get round to it. My intention is to present or explain what the Catholic Church believes, what the biblical evidence is, and why the commonly heard objections are faulty. I will not be writing a complete thesis on each topic,…

Pope Francis does not have an Adventist brother

July 24, 2013

By Stephen Korsman

Pope Francis on March 13 2013

When one group of Christians needs to lie about another group of Christians in order to look good and promote their cause, what does that say about them? The commandment not to lie is part of the same set of 10 that contains the commandment to keep the Sabbath. Yet some Sabbath keepers are more than willing to tell lies about the Catholic Church to promote their agenda.

Fraudulent anti-Catholic Adventist video

June 25, 2013

By Stephen Korsman

Donkey, Boston Public Library

Adventism is well know for those members and clergy who misrepresent the Catholic faith. Not all Adventists are dishonest, and I've had apologies from Adventists who acknowledge and regret their church's dishonesty. Unfortunately, via Tesa Beem at "It's Okay NOT to be a Seventh-day Adventist", I've seen another example of gross misrepresentation of Catholicism by Adventists.

Re-inventing the Adventist Wheel – God’s visible grace

May 12, 2007

By Stephen Korsman

I have been invited to be a contributor on one of the progressive Adventist blogs out there in the Adventist blogosphere - Re-inventing the Adventist Wheel. God's visible grace is the title of my first post there. Quite a debate ensued here and there.

More anti-Catholic billboards

April 4, 2007

By Stephen Korsman

Eternal Gospel Church

Adventism seems to like sticking up anti-Catholic billboards. This time it was an Adventist spin-off denomination, Eternal Gospel Church. This was around the beginning of February, and commented on at Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam.

The end of the Novena

November 26, 2006

By Stephen Korsman

I should note that requesting the prayers of deceased non-Catholics is not the norm, and that non-Catholics are not canonised as saints in the Catholic Church. If Ellen White is in heaven, we do not know, but we can hope and pray that she is. If she is, she will be praying with us. If not, God hears our prayers - cf Romans 8:26. This is therefore a private devotion, not one officially sanctioned by the Church, which I have shared with you.

Novena for Adventists – Day 1 – Anti-Catholic Teachings

November 18, 2006

By Stephen Korsman

Today we pray for Adventism, that it might see the light and truth it rejects in the Catholic faith it despises. Many within their fold fear the Catholic faith, despise it, and speak against it, not fully comprehending its beauty and faithfulness to the truth contained in the Bible. May God soften their hearts so that they may see the love we share, and the glory we give God in our lives and in our worship.

A Novena for Adventists

November 18, 2006

By Stephen Korsman

Novena - Introduction

In the Nine Days leading up to the 179th anniversary of the birth of Adventist prophetess Ellen White, we will say a novena - a prayer continued for nine days - for those who follow her teachings today.

SermonAudio – no response

February 2, 2006

By Stephen Korsman

White-tailed gnu (Black wildebeest)

There seems to be silence now from the Pastor X front ... no further groans from his flock. No further defence of his attitude. I think they are ashamed ... either that, or too busy finding other people to call devils.

Response from the [Fundamentalist] SermonAudio group

January 22, 2006

By Stephen Korsman

My message to anti-Catholics: Leave aside your objections to Catholic theology for a moment, and try to understand what Catholics actually believe. Otherwise you're just arguing against something we don't believe, and we remain unconvinced. That is what happens with 99% of the fundamentalist attempts to "witness" to Catholics. SermonAudio is a prime example.

A [Fundamentalist] Baptist Church and SermonAudio

January 18, 2006

By Stephen Korsman

Pastor X's church is NOT representative of Christianity. In fact, this type of church is very much in the minority. Unfortunately, their hatred of anything different to them leads them to be more vocal than most. And, equally unfortunately, all denominations have this type.

MegaShift or Jack Chick?

August 10, 2005

By Stephen Korsman

WorldNetDaily.com has given James Rutz, chairman of Megashift Ministries, a free hand to proclaim his version of the truth, which appears to be very similar to that of Jack Chick. His article is filled with the usual anti-Catholic propaganda, and doesn't seem to deal much in facts or accurate statistics; nor does he seem interested in substantiating his claims.

Laughable answers I have received to my legitimate email questions

September 4, 1998

By Stephen Korsman

By Bob Stanley ... Laughable answers I have received to my legitimate email questions ... with a few laughable remarks thrown in...