{"id":1268,"date":"2013-03-05T18:43:56","date_gmt":"2013-03-05T16:43:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/?p=1268"},"modified":"2021-09-04T15:46:13","modified_gmt":"2021-09-04T13:46:13","slug":"the-baby-cured-of-hiv-my-thoughts-as-a-virologist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/?p=1268","title":{"rendered":"The baby cured of HIV &#8211; my thoughts as a virologist"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fcbkbttn_buttons_block\" id=\"fcbkbttn_left\"><div class=\"fcbkbttn_button\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/DiscussingAdventismBook\" target=\"_blank\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/wp-content\/plugins\/facebook-button-plugin\/images\/standard-facebook-ico.png\" alt=\"Fb-Button\" \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/a>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div><div class=\"fcbkbttn_like \"><fb:like href=\"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/?p=1268\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\" layout=\"standard\"  width=\"400px\" size=\"small\"><\/fb:like><\/div><div class=\"fb-share-button  \" data-href=\"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/?p=1268\" data-type=\"button_count\" data-size=\"small\"><\/div><\/div><p>There has been great excitement in the media and in medical circles about a case of a baby girl who has been &#8220;cured&#8221; or &#8220;functionally cured&#8221; of HIV with early ARV therapy.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1269\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/commons.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/File:Newborn_baby-1_hour_after.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1269\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1269 \" src=\"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/320px-Newborn_baby-1_hour_after-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"Picture of a random baby off WikiMedia Commons\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/320px-Newborn_baby-1_hour_after-300x225.jpg 300w, http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/320px-Newborn_baby-1_hour_after.jpg 320w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1269\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Picture of a random baby off WikiMedia Commons, since everyone else has a picture of a cute baby with their articles<\/p><\/div>\n<p>I am not convinced.\u00a0 At least not as far as a real removal of all HIV from the baby is concerned.<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #333399;\">Original abstract from CROI 2013:<\/span> &#8220;<a title=\"Functional HIV Cure after Very Early ART of an Infected Infant\" href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20130306231059\/http:\/\/www.retroconference.org\/2013b\/Abstracts\/47897.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Functional HIV Cure after Very Early ART of an Infected Infant&#8221;<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>NIH report: <a title=\"Toddler 'functionally cured' of HIV infection, NIH-supported investigators report\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nih.gov\/news-events\/news-releases\/toddler-functionally-cured-hiv-infection-nih-supported-investigators-report\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Toddler &#8216;functionally cured&#8217; of HIV infection<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Science Daily report: <a title=\"First Documented Case of Child Cured of HIV\" href=\"https:\/\/www.sciencedaily.com\/releases\/2013\/03\/130303172640.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">First Documented Case of Child Cured of HIV<\/a><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Summary:<\/strong><\/span> a 2-year old baby, infected at or before birth, diagnosed in the first 29-30 hours on two samples, put on ARVs by 29-30 hours after birth.\u00a0 Viral load dropped over a month.\u00a0 The baby remained on ARVs for 18 months, and was off ARVs for 5 months (different reports name different drugs; the CROI abstract does not specify).\u00a0 Now the baby tests antibody negative and PCR negative on <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">standard<\/span> assays.\u00a0 On ultrasensitive PCR assays HIV can still be detected\u00a0 in this baby at very low levels.<\/p>\n<p>My thoughts:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>The terminology:<\/strong><\/span> What is a cure?\u00a0 First of all, in the context of HIV, &#8220;cure&#8221; is a highly emotive word and should not be used unless one wishes to attract attention (or internet headlines).\u00a0 Second, it could be interpreted to mean the complete eradication \/ elimination of a disease \/ organism from someone&#8217;s body.\u00a0 That is the holy grail of HIV medicine and HIV science.\u00a0 When we use the word &#8220;cure&#8221; in the context of HIV, the public and media think of this.\u00a0 Hence the attention and headlines &#8211; many of the less scientific reports in the general press are taking it to mean this type of cure.\u00a0 Third, &#8220;cure&#8221; can mean attaining a state where the disease is no longer present.\u00a0 In the HIV context, HIV might be present but the disease is kept at bay &#8211; without ongoing ARVs.\u00a0 But the word &#8220;cure&#8221; is rarely used in that context &#8211; the vaccines we hope to develop for giving to HIV-infected people are not called curative vaccines.\u00a0 We simply hope to stop or slow down the disease process.\u00a0 A therapeutic vaccine that permanently halted the disease process without eradicating the HIV reservoirs from the body is not, in my experience, called a cure.\u00a0 (One that did, would be, but the therapeutic vaccines we are aiming for are not curative in that sense, not yet anyway.)\u00a0 But slowing or stopping HIV disease would be the closest thing to what has happened here &#8211; hence the use of the term &#8220;<em>functional cure<\/em>&#8220;.\u00a0 Since it seems clear that the virus has not been completely eradicated from this baby, I think the term &#8220;cure&#8221; is inappropriate and meant rather to get attention.\u00a0 What has happened is a state where the baby is infected with HIV but the HIV can do nothing to the baby.\u00a0 How permanent or temporary this state is for this baby is not yet known.<\/p>\n<p>I will go through a few of the important issues, and discuss some of the confusion they create, and mention some of the questions they leave open.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Early diagnosis:<\/strong><\/span> The specificity of HIV PCR in the first few days, up to 7 days, of life is not as good as it is later.\u00a0 This is because infected maternal cells, and even free virus (transmitted as free virus or produced by the infected maternal cells) can enter the baby&#8217;s circulation.\u00a0 In most cases, such virus results in an infection in the infant, but not in all cases.\u00a0 Just because virus was detected in this infant so early does not mean the virus actually established a productive infection.\u00a0 Furthermore, in clinical grounds it&#8217;s unlikely that the infection occurred before birth &#8211; such infections usually establish themselves very well prior to birth &#8211; at best, this baby&#8217;s infection was not properly established, which means that infection must have been very recent, i.e. most likely intra\/peri-partum, or during birth.\u00a0 Early ARVs at this stage may have been adequate post-exposure prophylaxis to prevent a productive infection.\u00a0 If that was the case, then one can indeed expect viral levels to drop over the next month.\u00a0 One would, however, expect the same if the baby were truly infected and on ARVs.\u00a0 What exactly happened here remains, in my opinion, debatable.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1270\" style=\"width: 101px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1270\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1270 \" src=\"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/03\/virus.png\" alt=\"A virus\" width=\"101\" height=\"96\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-1270\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">A virus<\/p><\/div>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Ultrasensitive assays:<\/strong><\/span> The reports admit that the ultrasensitive PCRs do indeed detect low levels of HIV present in the infant.\u00a0 Viral DNA is currently present in cells, albeit very little (4-37 PBMCs\/million PBMCs), and viral RNA is present in the baby&#8217;s blood (1 copy in the sample they took), or was at one recent point in time (free virus somewhere &#8211; which must have been produced in some cell somewhere and released into the patient&#8217;s blood.)\u00a0 This is probably why they are not claiming an actual sterilising cure, and are calling it a &#8220;functional cure&#8221;.\u00a0 However, if there is virus in the patient, then the patient is not really cured in the sense of viral eradication.\u00a0 The virus is there and could return with a vengeance later.\u00a0 Disease may indefinitely be postponed, but we currently have no idea for how long.\u00a0 Similarly, the Berlin patient who was cured with an allogeneic hematopoietic stem cell transplant from a donor with the <a title=\"CCR5-\u039432\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/CCR5#CCR5-.CE.9432\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">CCR5-\u039432<\/a> mutation has recently been reported to have low levels of HIV in his blood [<em>Defunct link: Science Insider, Science Mag, 11 July 2012<\/em>], detectable on ultrasensitive PCR.\u00a0 The problem with ultrasensitive PCR\u00a0(and any normal PCR) is that lab contamination can easily produce a false positive signal &#8211; as the researched cited on Science Insider says, &#8220;<em>If you do enough cycles of PCR, you can get a signal in water for pink elephants.<\/em>&#8221;\u00a0 So what this means is unclear and up for debate.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Absent antibodies:<\/strong><\/span> The reports say that the infant tests negative for anti-HIV antibodies.\u00a0 That is to be expected in a person who is not infected with HIV.\u00a0 It is also occasionally seen in infected persons, typically babies, who can no longer produce antibodies due to an overwhelming HIV infection destroying their HIV-specific immune response.\u00a0 This problem, and a patient we tested, are mentioned in <a title=\"Claassen M, van Zyl GU, Korsman SN, Smit L, Cotton MF, Preiser W. Pitfalls with rapid HIV antibody testing in HIV-infected children in the Western Cape, South Africa. J Clin Virol 2006;37:68-71.\" href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/16875874\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Claassen <em>et al<\/em>., 2006<\/a>; see also <a title=\"Garcia-Prats AJ, Draper HR, Sanders JE, Agrawal AK, Mohapi EQ, Schutze GE. False-negative post-18-month confirmatory HIV tests in HIV DNA PCR-positive children: a retrospective analysis. AIDS 2012;26:1927-34.\" href=\"https:\/\/pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/22739392\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Garcia-Prats <em>et al<\/em>., 2012<\/a>; and we identified such a baby this week in our lab.\u00a0 But if that were the case with this baby in the press, one would expect poor, and not good, control over her HIV, and in that case her viral load would be high, not low.\u00a0 I am a virologist, not an immunologist, but it seems odd to me that she a) has virus present (at very, very low levels), b) controls this virus well, and c) still has no antibodies.\u00a0 If she controls her virus well, it means she has a functional immune system, or at least a function anti-HIV T-cell response.\u00a0 In such a case I&#8217;d expect to see a decent antibody response from the B-cells induced by the T-cells.\u00a0\u00a0 Perhaps the HIV production rate in this baby is so extremely low that the immune response can clear the minimal levels without being significantly stimulated.\u00a0 Certain localised viral infections that the immune system can clear or control in humans do not always result in antibody production.\u00a0 HPV may induce only low levels, or no levels, of antibody.\u00a0 Rabies patients often have no antibody detected, but that&#8217;s probably because they die before producing antibody, which they would probably do if they had lived a few weeks longer.\u00a0 However, while rabies is still asymptomatic (i.e. not yet causing disease up in the brain &#8211; which can be weeks to months to even years), antibodies are usually absent.\u00a0 The absence of anti-HIV antibodies in this baby is possibly not absolute evidence against infection, and therefore remains a debatable aspect.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>So.\u00a0 What does this mean?<\/strong><\/span>\u00a0 What do we have?\u00a0 We have a baby who may or may not have been infected with HIV to begin with (assuming a real absence of virus) but <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">tests still show detectable virus in the baby&#8217;s blood<\/span> (so the baby is indeed infected unless the researchers contaminated their PCRs) and this means <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">there was a real infection<\/span>.\u00a0 We have a baby who has <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">no antibodies<\/span>, whatever that means in this case.\u00a0 We have a baby who may be <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">controlling her virus in a spectacular way<\/span>.\u00a0 It could mean that this baby has some genetic factor (HLA typing shows that the baby and mother shared haplotypes, but isn&#8217;t clear that the two are HLA-identical, so this may be a factor still) that allows for excellent control of her HIV (or even an ARV-assisted partial clearance and control.)\u00a0 Or a viral factor such as transmitted defective virus, although the maternal virus was determined to be wildtype HIV-1 subtype B &#8211; but they don&#8217;t mention any analysis on the baby&#8217;s virus, probably because there is not enough to analyse properly.\u00a0 We (not me, but the scientific \/ medical community as a whole) will need to do <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">a lot more research<\/span> on this case to work out what factors may or may not have led to this event.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>My conclusion:<\/strong><\/span> It sounds to me as if this is a baby with a current and clearly documented HIV infection, which happens to be either extremely well suppressed and\/or only minimally functional.\u00a0 I am of the opinion that this is not a conclusive case of a cure.\u00a0 The word &#8220;cure&#8221; has been qualified with the word &#8220;functional&#8221;.\u00a0 We should be careful using words like &#8220;cure&#8221; in situations like this &#8211; the term &#8220;functional cure&#8221; is really just the use of &#8220;functional&#8221; as a weasel word to allow the term &#8220;cure&#8221; to get into the headlines.\u00a0 Were this discovery presented without the word &#8220;cure&#8221;, the medics and scientists would say &#8220;Wow, excellent, we need to look at this further, this is a major breakthrough, and in time it would lead to something better than what we have now.&#8221;\u00a0 But since they used the word &#8220;cure&#8221;, even qualified by the word &#8220;functional&#8221;, a word the media has not understood, we have ended up with the headlines and misconceptions we see all over the internet and various other news sources.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>What next?<\/strong><\/span> What does this mean for other babies?\u00a0 Many babies are put on ARVs very early.\u00a0 Most (i.e. all with only one known exception, and even that is inconclusive in my opinion) such babies do not clear their HIV infection.\u00a0 So what does this case mean for other babies?\u00a0 It could mean that babies do better if diagnosed very, very early.\u00a0 (Of course, false positives need to be screened out somehow.)\u00a0 It is certainly worth looking at clinical trials for treatment as early as possible, which, in spite of no clear mechanism found in this case, would be ethically justifiable based on our current knowledge.\u00a0 We already know that early treatment is better.\u00a0 Very very early treatment might well result in further cases of this sort.\u00a0 For this baby, I hope she is uninfected (unlikely), or will maintain life-long control.\u00a0 For other babies (and those with HIV who were once babies), I hope that this results in something good.<\/p>\n<p>The <a title=\"Southern African HIV Clinician's Society\" href=\"https:\/\/sahivsoc.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Southern African HIV Clinician&#8217;s Society<\/a> knows that all of the above are problematic, and have said the following in their statement on this case (no longer on their site).\u00a0 Their emphasis in <em><span style=\"color: #333399;\"><strong>bold<\/strong><\/span><\/em>, my comments in <em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">[red]<\/span><\/em>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"color: #333399;\">This is very exciting because it provides proof of concept that if an HIV infected infant is started on antiretroviral therapy early enough there is a chance that the infection can be eradicated before it takes hold in the body. <em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">[before it takes hold = before actual infection on a cellular level]<\/span> <\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\">These findings do however warrant further research. <em><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\">[Definitely.\u00a0 Much more research]<\/span><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #333399;\">This child was started on treatment exceptionally early at the age of 30 hours of life. Usually in South Africa a child is started on antiretroviral treatment following a diagnosis of HIV infection at 6 weeks. For this reason it is very unlikely that there will be any babies in South Africa in the same situation as this child. <strong>It is vitally important that children on treatment do not stop their antiretrovirals.<\/strong> Furthermore standard tests for HIV, conducted on children who started on treatment early on in life, may give false negative results. <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><em>[They may test false negative!! This is NOT all that uncommon.]<\/em><\/span> Children who have been proven to have HIV infection early on and are on treatment, should be discouraged from being re-tested later on as a result of this phenomenon.<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline; color: #c11f4c;\"><strong>Please don&#8217;t get irresponsible ideas from this case about how to manage your patients or your children.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My conclusion: It sounds to me as if this is a baby with a current and clearly documented HIV infection, which happens to be either extremely well suppressed and\/or only minimally functional.  I am of the opinion that this is not a conclusive case of a true cure.  The word &#8220;cure&#8221; has been qualified with the word &#8220;functional&#8221;.  We should be careful using words like &#8220;cure&#8221; in situations like this &#8211; the term &#8220;functional cure&#8221; is really just the use of &#8220;functional&#8221; as a weasel word to allow the term &#8220;cure&#8221; to get into the headlines.<\/p><p><a class=\"more-link btn\" href=\"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/?p=1268\">Continue reading<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":true,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[93],"tags":[219,210,216,217,214,218,208,215,209,212,211,747,213],"class_list":["post-1268","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-virology","tag-antiretrovirals","tag-arvs","tag-baby-cured-of-hiv","tag-belgian-patient","tag-ccr5-mutation","tag-functional-cure","tag-hiv","tag-hiv-antibodies","tag-hiv-cure","tag-immunology","tag-pcr","tag-virology","tag-weasel-word","item-wrap"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p3fpVQ-ks","jetpack_likes_enabled":false,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1268","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1268"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1268\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9432,"href":"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1268\/revisions\/9432"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1268"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1268"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/blog.theotokos.co.za\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1268"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}