Some people think Jesus died on a Wednesday or Thursday, and rose on the sabbath. That means the first day of the week, which Luke says is the 3rd day since the Crucifixion, was really the 5th day, or 4th day, going by the way the Bible counts. But what's a day or two between friends?
Think about this quickly. Jesus died on a Wednesday. He rose on the sabbath. The next day, Sunday, was the third day since the Crucifixion, which was five days previously. And Jesus rose on the third day. Huh? That makes no sense, you say? Quite right, it doesn't. Yet some people, especially the Church of God (CoG) movement derived from Herbert Armstrong, get it muddled to that degree.
God does not change. The Bible tells us this. Adventists need to stop using those verses as proof texts that the sabbath doesn't change. Those passages refer to God, and, unless Adventists think the sabbath is God, those passages do not refer to the sabbath.
What is clear from this table is that there are no deletions by anyone. Every church uses a summary for easy memorisation, but a summary does not mean they have removed anything from the Bible.
In my previous post, I looked at how the Bible never calls the sabbath a day of worship. I've challenged Adventists to show me where the Bible says it is a day of worship. Needless to say, there were no responses forthcoming that actually provided me with biblical evidence of the Adventist claim.
If Adventists are right, even remotely right, there must be some biblical instruction in the Old Testament that the sabbath is God's decreed day of worship. But there isn't ...
It is heartwarming indeed to see Adventists debate and reject their own church's historical understanding of prophecy.
The Catholic Church simply doesn't have the influence in modern society to get such a law right, even if it wanted to. It will never happen anyway, but if it did, the world would have to change a LOT. It would be an extreme law, requiring a situation much different to that of today.
Vaccines and the huge benefits they have brought are a matter of science and history and fact, and there is plenty of evidence for those who are willing to look at it. I'll briefly comment on some aspects of vaccine success and discuss some legitimate instances where vaccines are inappropriate, and I'll give useful links below; my purpose here is to make a statement and not to provide several years worth of studying science on one page. I'll also touch on the valid problem of…
Some Christians say we should observe the Holy Days instructed in the Old Testament. Some say they pointed to Christ and were fulfilled by Christ.
It is worth pointing out that in John 7:19-23, Jesus points out that circumcision takes priority over the sabbath, and lists the sabbath as an example of the law of Moses.
Adventists quote a dubious medieval source that describes something Pope Sylvester may or may not have done centuries earlier. They usually don't understand what it says.
In Part 1 we looked at a striking and honest Adventist acknowledgement of the type of dishonesty that forms part of Adventist culture. Here we'll look at specific common examples of how dishonest Adventists spread fake facts and fake history.
Adventist Today: "We have in this denomination nurtured a class of people who have little regard for verifiable truth. Some lie intentionally and boldly, such as those who altered that article and passed on the letter as factual. Of the rest, it is unclear to me whether they lack the ability to distinguish a spurious story from a true one, or just prefer to believe any bit of mythology that feeds their hunger for novelty, and affirms their fears. ... They preferred titillating myths ..."
Some Adventists and sabbatarians like to claim that the reformers knew that keeping the sabbath was biblical, but they kept Sunday instead because the Holy Spirit hadn't led them to that light yet. Other dishonest Adventists and sabbatarians like to quote Protestant "admissions" that there is no reason to observe Sunday and that the Bible teaches that we should be keeping the Saturday sabbath.
Until recently, in my mind Seventh-day Adventism was a Christian denomination. An odd one, with strange beliefs that are contrary to biblical teaching, but Christian nonetheless. That opinion is changing. I think that the Catholic Church should investigate Seventh-day Adventism more fully, and consider conditionally baptising anyone entering the Church if their previous baptism was an Adventist one.
This is a useful summary of the biblical evidence against sabbath observance and for Sunday observance.
Adventists are strange things indeed. Experts in deceit. Experts at trolling. Experts at saying the same misconceptions over and over without listening to explanations as to why they are wrong. E.g. why we should all go and commit adultery and murder if we consider the sabbath obsolete. As if repeating the same silly argument will make people change their minds. Intelligent discussion with them is rare, and mostly impossible. I've never, never come across a religion with so much dishonesty in it, and with so…
Out there on the interweb, there are trolls. Many of them. Occasionally I like to feed them. I'd feed them pork, but they're Adventist, so one of the few rules they have is to not eat pork. (They only have 10 rules, which are to keep the sabbath on Saturday and to not eat pork. Abortion and dishonesty are permitted)
André Reis, an old "friend" of this blog, has two very interesting posts on Daniel 8 over at Adventist Today and Spectrum. It seems he is disagreeing with the classic Adventist interpretation of Daniel 8, which links the two horns of Daniel 7 and 8 as the same entity, papal Rome. His position on Daniel 8 is much like mine, and much like that of ex-Adventist Dale Ratzlaff over at Life Assurance Ministries. His view disagrees with mine in that I, like Adventists, see the…
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